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elnysa2017-08-12 04:59 pm
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text | un: pgoldstein
Good afternoon.
Since our arrival on Thesa Station it's undeniable a lot has taken course. We're now well into a month on the surface proper and I can't say we have much more to say for it. Well, short of several conversations on murder and questions on individual tastes.
Enlightening though I am sure some of those conversations were, there's also some other things we as a group may wish to discuss. Although it became quite a controversy situation in the end, the idea of preparing for any potential characters who would do harm to not only us Refugees but the natives here is something to certainly keep in mind. As we cannot say that we come from a place elsewhere, where these people had control, it's up to us as a group to keep a handle on that.
No, I'm not proposing a hit list of any sort. That's insane. And given the earlier conversations on the matter is only going to end in people up in arms. I don't think any of us here are under any false impressions that someone is going to stay in the pods up there or we're not going to face something more. And what with the recent listings and those observing our skills it might do for us to know what each other are capable of.
If we have a list we can propose groups for when something strikes again; Perhaps another drop from the sky or something such as combat or healing skills that the natives would misunderstand and take too lightly. Just from the past month here, suffice it to say, some of our capabilities include medical knowledge and strength that may not be common at all here.
[Especially in the former, but she's yet to see people who can stop things with their bare hands recently either here.]
Needless to say this is not at all mandated and everyone has their secrets they do not wish to share, but if there's skills you are willing to share with others and possibly be grouped with should the situation arise I believe now is a good time to do it. A name, profession, and known skills (magical or otherwise), and what you feel capable of during high-stress situations will suffice. What level of technology, if any, you are knowledgeable of my also be of use as there are those who may use a bow, but never more than that and vice versa.
Similarly, though no hit list will be made if there is someone asleep, or even awake, you're wary of or a situation you think may come and wish to prepare for. This can be used for civil conversations to discuss matters or propose what may be done.
As for myself, it would be unfair to request anyone to answer without providing information of my own. My name is Porpentina Goldstein, but please address me as Tina. In my own world my profession is that of an Auror. Someone's equated it to a police officer which will have to do for the easiest description of it. But while we captured criminals we were the first to go to fight against undesirables. I came from early 1927 in New York City, for those whom it means anything to.
While I do not keep up with the social conversations on this thing, I do try to keep updated on what is said. Should you need any help I will always do my best.
Since our arrival on Thesa Station it's undeniable a lot has taken course. We're now well into a month on the surface proper and I can't say we have much more to say for it. Well, short of several conversations on murder and questions on individual tastes.
Enlightening though I am sure some of those conversations were, there's also some other things we as a group may wish to discuss. Although it became quite a controversy situation in the end, the idea of preparing for any potential characters who would do harm to not only us Refugees but the natives here is something to certainly keep in mind. As we cannot say that we come from a place elsewhere, where these people had control, it's up to us as a group to keep a handle on that.
No, I'm not proposing a hit list of any sort. That's insane. And given the earlier conversations on the matter is only going to end in people up in arms. I don't think any of us here are under any false impressions that someone is going to stay in the pods up there or we're not going to face something more. And what with the recent listings and those observing our skills it might do for us to know what each other are capable of.
If we have a list we can propose groups for when something strikes again; Perhaps another drop from the sky or something such as combat or healing skills that the natives would misunderstand and take too lightly. Just from the past month here, suffice it to say, some of our capabilities include medical knowledge and strength that may not be common at all here.
[Especially in the former, but she's yet to see people who can stop things with their bare hands recently either here.]
Needless to say this is not at all mandated and everyone has their secrets they do not wish to share, but if there's skills you are willing to share with others and possibly be grouped with should the situation arise I believe now is a good time to do it. A name, profession, and known skills (magical or otherwise), and what you feel capable of during high-stress situations will suffice. What level of technology, if any, you are knowledgeable of my also be of use as there are those who may use a bow, but never more than that and vice versa.
Similarly, though no hit list will be made if there is someone asleep, or even awake, you're wary of or a situation you think may come and wish to prepare for. This can be used for civil conversations to discuss matters or propose what may be done.
As for myself, it would be unfair to request anyone to answer without providing information of my own. My name is Porpentina Goldstein, but please address me as Tina. In my own world my profession is that of an Auror. Someone's equated it to a police officer which will have to do for the easiest description of it. But while we captured criminals we were the first to go to fight against undesirables. I came from early 1927 in New York City, for those whom it means anything to.
While I do not keep up with the social conversations on this thing, I do try to keep updated on what is said. Should you need any help I will always do my best.
text; un: ironborn
You haven't made yourself clear. Are you suggesting mere imprisonment for such people?
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But this is not my own country and we're refugees, how we handle them will be depedent on this group as well as the laws in place here.
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Whatever the laws of this place may be, imprisonment is not enough to restrain certain people when they leave those pods. If that is the case, I do not intend to play by Thesa's rules.
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[ When someone is just naturally good at manipulating minds and naturally good at the art of deception, those powers aren't going anywhere. ]
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Or perhaps there's one among us who can handle them. That's why the point is to discuss than simply assume.
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[ He is impulsive and stupid. Don't mind him. ]
text; un: colt.saa
An American talking about making voluntary lists for potential trouble spots. This seems familiar.
[ though she's a little early for the "Red Scare". ]
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But if something happens again we might actually want to be coordinated. We won't always have that lot up there to help us out.
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See, that's the problem with trusting your fellow man. Not everyone is altruistic.
[ but hey, a list like that might be useful. ]
Also, I'm pretty familiar with the United States. Can't say I've ever heard of an "auror".
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It remains better to be prepared than what ifs.
No, I wouldn't suspect you would. I'm from the United States, but my kind live separately from others. I shouldn't be using technology like this if I followed by my own laws.
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[ or just don't trust anything. ]
There might be other ways to prepare youself. A voluntary list is always going to cause problems one way or another. It's like so many other great ideas: amazing in theory, but in practice far more difficult.
[ though, eventually he will likely surrender basic information. questions like these are always as much about finding out what the other person is like than anything else. ]
Your "kind"? And what "kind" is that, exactly?
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Given that we were immediately meant to trust each other and by large people are willingly giving their information away on these things on a daily basis trust is too loosely an idea here.
A voluntary list also only works if anyone provides information. Which they haven't and I'm not gonna force anyone to tell me any such things. So, as you can see, decent idea or otherwise it only works with corporation and willingness.
[IE the problem is already answered in the fact the people responding do not trust it. But the next response comes a few minutes later:]
I work for MACUSA: Magical Congress of the United States of America. Since the original Aurors came to be we've kept separate from our non-magical counterparts since.
[because you know no-majs almost killed them all.]
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[ and World War II for that matter. but he's not about to get into that. instead... ]
Magic. As in, abilities you have that "normal" people don't? Where I come from, we've got some of that too. But it can all usually be explained with science.
[ because look. he can see ghosts. and might be a little psychic. but that is totally scientific. ]
un: real_life_actual_king
[Just throwing that out there because, c'mon, no parent is that cruel.]
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It's Tina.
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Now, on the subject of this hit list, can we start submitting names?
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There isn't any to be spoken of. If you wish to warn people on those who might appear and why that is certainly one thing.
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How did you make your words all slanted like that? I've been trying to figure it out for days and bupkis.
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You pick it up eventually.
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Now, as for names. I know we're not sharing yet, but I'm just going to toss one out. Madalena.
Text; user name: genjosanzo31
[Sometimes murder, although not preferable, was still at times necessary. And sometimes some people just liked to shoot other people. That's why this kingdom had an active military system in place, right? Also, who knows, it might make for some interesting new job opportunities.]
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[She'll turn that back as an answer.]
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You butting in on other people's affairs, on the other hand, is just the sort of thing that would land yourself in quite a bit of trouble.
Don't forget, we're not natives to this world, nor are many of us from the same planet. It wouldn't be a good idea to start regulating what people can and can't do based solely on your own personal morals.
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however, everyone's answer is immediately "I'm going to kill them" without the powers to do so. And you answered yourself right there: This isn't our world.
Killing someone might have worked there, but we still have to play by this world's laws.
Should someone kill another one here, either way, it'll look bad on the rest of us refugees.
As I've said this entire time: I ain't got any control over what you do and this is all volunteery. What, do you expect me to go out and stop anyone I see having a fight?
[she might, but that's a different story.]
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I guess I've been underestimating all these lazy chumps.
[And here he assumed he was the only casually tossing death threats at everyone. So much for being original. Would he need to get more creative in his methods maybe?]
Anyway, as interesting as your offer is, isn't it mutually dangerous? Telling everyone to publicly divulge private information about themselves, although valuable, mutually puts them in harms way. What if someone took hold of the list you're collecting and used it for less savory things? Identity theft is quite a serious issue, especially when we're living in a new place where no one has much to prove who they are and what they can truly do.
Then there are just the idiot who could just want to fuck with you and make up bullshit regarding who they are and what they're capable of.
And who's to say this place is secretly not just as dangerous as the worlds we are from as well? That issues that forced us to kill where we were from don't also exist here?
[ text | un: professorx ]
I feel a list like that can be potentially dangerous.
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Lists can be dangerous. Especially to those who are different. Surely that lesson has been learned well enough by now?
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anyway. What one shares is up to them. You can get every single person's name and contact through this device if you wanted.
Anyone worried about who or what they are will keep it to themselves.
The point of this is for order should another large scale incident happen. Not to go forcing someone to do something they don't want to.
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[ Charles led a charmed, easier life. But he was still a mutant. And he knew too much of Erik's life to take this kind of statement lightly. No matter how good the intentions may be. ]
Is it so hard to believe that when the time comes, people can act on their better behaviors? I feel we're not all that terrible, despite the fears people have been posting here.
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[And it is. MACUSA has all sorts of lists, down to when and where magic is being used. It works for them and people remain safe.]
Their discussions of murders aside, largely people have been kind. Though there are some who react poorly to other presences. Most civilians will not just put themselves in the way of danger again. The first time was a forced reaction, the idea is people who are capable and willing to help. That is simply all.
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[ But there's no point using history as a sticking point when all of it is gone. ]
Aren't there jobs for that?
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It's a rough model and those were everyone, forced into the situation. I hardly expect civilians to come to aid in a battle if they don't wish to.
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and no one's forcing anyone, that'd just go poorly
un: rjlupin
[ Being friendly and helpful toward people who don't trust him has never hurt anything before. It's also frequently failed to help, but if he were a quitter he'd be dead already. ]
As for technology, I know how to use telephones, and my mother had a television for a while.