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[Ianto debates for longer than he'd care to admit as to whether he should make this announcement via text or voice or what but some people obviously haven't got the time to read when there's a great bloody dragon threatening to attack, and as far as he's concerned, what he's got to say is important enough that it needs listening to.

Deep breaths, Ianto Jones, you can do this.]

Right. So we've all heard enough of it by now. Undead dragon. Shanrian's son. Stole the heart. Now him and his gang planning to bring it back so they can, I don't know. He hasn't exactly spelled that part out, now has he, though I'm pretty sure chaos is big on the menu.

And we've all been doing a lot of running around trying to figure out what to do about it. Well, most of us have. Some of us are trying to deal with the trouble with the station and some of us have other priorities I suppose, though frankly I'm not certain how much more extreme it can get than 'great crazed undead creature of legend'.

[Oops, guess he should be explaining himself here.]

Look, I've been doing some research and I think you all should know. This is a forbidden ritual he's got them doing, and there's every chance that these shamans he's got working for him won't be able to control the dragon once they're done. So if you're thinking of trying to reason with the creature, or. That you feel bad for it in some way and you want to try and spare him if you can -- don't.

Whatever they bring back won't be the dragon Ysverai and it won't care whether you are from Olympia or from Wyver or a refugee or another dragon yourself, it will simply want you dead. We're just going to need to make certain we get rid of it first.

That's the part where you all come in.

[Hopefully by that point someone will have come up with a plan...]

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Is this really still a conversation we need to have?

The dragon was already dead once. I'm pretty sure it's morally sound to make it dead again, no matter what your hang-ups are.

[It's like double jeopardy.] Debate over, everyone.

You'd be surprised. Some people are pretty hard to convince. You know, here it is alive again, a second chance, maybe it can be saved, etc. Back in the day, he used to be known as Ysverai the wise, after all. Supposedly for a dragon he was a bit of alright.

Unfortunately, all the research I've done points to this thing coming back completely out of its mind. So you're right. There's really no debate at all. It's either him, or us. And he's been dead for generations now.

[Ianto's glad that there's at least some people who agree with him. Even if they are... A raccoon.]

Second chances are for the actually living. You don't get to just come back, like it's nothing.

[Also he might be very biased against this because, well... Even Groot had to be regrown from a twig and that twig was most definitely not the original Groot. Fucking dragon dude does not get to be the exception to that rule.]

I get the Wyverns being a little idiotic about this, but our people? Come on.

I'm not sure that the dragon has a choice in the matter, which is of course where the argument lies. He didn't choose to die, and he didn't choose to be brought back. Not like this. Some people have big hearts for... [Don't say animals, Ianto, don't say it.] The oppressed.

And yet.

[And yet.]

I'm not sure that there is a way to save him. There wasn't a way to save the man this has been done for in the past. And if it's a choice between him or us, he's got no idea what's going on anymore. He's being used, for the personal gain of a madman. It would be merciful, as much as anything else.

[Rocket also has a pretty considerable bias when it comes to that too. Enough that some of his edginess fades and he looks more quietly resigned than anything else.]

If it were me, I'd want somebody to do it. I wouldn't wanna live like that.

[Ianto doesn't know quite what it is that he's said, but he knows that he's said something that's hit a note with him, here. If he were speaking to Rocket face to face he'd probably be studying his expression in this moment. As it is, his expression sobers.]

My thoughts exactly.

[He takes a breath.]

Look, I. Don't really have any ideas as far as how to approach the situation from there, but. I figured if we brought our heads together, we might at least come to some conclusions?

My conclusion is blow it the hell up. I don't know about anyone else, and I kinda don't care.

If such a thing is possible, believe me. I am right there with you.

Unfortunately, I've got a feeling that this creature is of the resilient sort. The High Dragons were rather notoriously hard to kill. Only "Thesa's Light" was able to fell them in the end, after all.

Whatever that means. God knows it would be a lot easier if anyone wrote what they actually meant, instead of using a bunch of flowery filler to make it all sound more epic.

Y'know who'd know the answer?

The frickin' Natha. Who are suspiciously absent.

You say that as if they were to ever give a straight, helpful answer to a question in the first place. An idea of which I'm highly suspicious of, truth be told. They rather strike me as the sort to tell you exactly what they think you ought to know and no more no less, no matter what your own opinion may be on the subject.

[Ianto has a lot of opinions on these Natha. And he'd like to know where they hell they are now when this crisis is brewing for that matter as well, yes.]

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You ain't wrong. As their precious refugees, you'd think they'd give us a little more, but, hey, they saved our asses and they're promising us things. They probably choose to believe they don't owe us shit.

Their promises... [Ianto echoes. Ah, yes. Their promises.] It's how they keep us in line, you know. They saved us, we owe them, they've got the rest of our people in stasis, they could end it all on a whim.

[Careful, Ianto, your conspiracy theories are showing.]

Maybe they really are as benevolent as they appear, I just. I don't know. Where are they now? When the shit starts to really hit the fan and they've buggered off to leave us to fend for ourselves, it just doesn't leave me feeling very warm and fuzzy on their behalf.

Guess we'll find out what kind of excuse they give when they get back. If they come back.

[Atsushi has ignored most of the dragon rumors for the simple reason that he has no idea what to do about them, whether they're true or not - he remembers that simulation on Thesa, with a dragon burning down everything, including him - but at least this video offers an approach that's more than "fight the unfightable and hope you happen to kill it before it kills you".]

If this forbidden ritual somehow "taints" the dragon, turning it into something it's not, shouldn't there be another ritual that can "cleanse" it somehow?

It's not that I'm opposed to killing the dragon if we have to, but that's easier said than done. If some kind of counter-ritual is possible, it could help, whether we aim to kill the dragon or not.

[Ianto chews his lip slightly. As far as he's concerned, all of this is easier said than done, considering what they're up against.]

Perhaps it might be possible? I'm no expert on any of this, mind. I've just managed to find record of a ritual like this one done before, and it was...

Well, they wrote of bringing back from death a great hero, but when he returned, the man was crazed. Wrong. He lived just one day before the family hired an assassin to end his life again, and "no attempts by the shamans who'd called him back to control his madness could save him". Apparently the ritual has been forbidden since.

You'll forgive me for saying so, but it doesn't paint a very hopeful picture. The writings were very brief, though. I've no idea what the shamans did to try and save this man, or if there is a way to -- perhaps, reverse what was done, as it were? I’m not sure there’s record of it, though perhaps looking into a way of cleansing the creature itself...?

[It could work. At least, in theory. Again, he’s no shaman. Or magician, for that matter.]

That's definitely a worrying idea.

[An already-dangerous dragon coming back crazed? If anything, "worrying" is an understatement.]

Perhaps the best we can hope for is that the ritual simply won't work on a dragon... but of course we need to be prepared.

If the shamans didn't manage, perhaps we should try other sources? The Temples, for example!

[If Overseer Voss preaches at the dragon, maybe it will be bored to death.]

Or maybe the Khali animal tamers...? Obviously they couldn't handle the dragons of old, but, if nothing else, they might still have ways to slow a crazed dragon down.

The Khali tamers might... I don't know, I wouldn't bet my life on it though. If they couldn't stop a High Dragon back in the day, I don't know how they could do anything to handle one now, especially one that isn't in its right mind.

[He rubs at his face tiredly. He's been doing a lot of researching lately. Chasing down a lot of different tracks of thought that have so far ended up going nowhere but here. It's a very troubling state of affairs.]

The Temples may be another route to go, I just. At what point do we accept that the dragon might not want to have been brought back in the first place?

I think that's a given. Especially if it's as wise as people say it was...

[One thing's for sure: the dragon never asked to be brought back through some kind of corrupting ritual. Atsushi can't imagine anything or anybody enjoying being brought back to life as a tool for someone else to achieve his goals, either.]

At least the record you mention suggests that it can be killed again. If that's our only hope, then that's what we'll have to do.

Yeah... I think they would have mentioned if, you know. The man they brought back was particularly difficult to put an end to after the fact. But they didn't. Of course, it's a different story for a High Dragon, considering how difficult they were to kill in the first place. But at least the point remains. We're not about to have some magically resurrected undying zombie dragon on our hands.

[A beat.]

Just your average magically resurrected dragon instead.

I feel like that phrase should sound a lot stranger to my ears than it does, after all this time here.

[He gives Ianto a sheepish smile. Maybe Atsushi's life had never been what you'd call "normal", but it wasn't nearly as crazy as everything here, he thinks. That Nysa life...]

[Ianto runs his hands over his face, heaving out a heavy sigh in return. He thought he'd gotten used to this sort of thing, working at Torchwood. Never a dull moment, he supposes.]

I'm afraid to say that I'm one of those more recently arrived. Is this sort of thing a frequent occurrence? You know. Calamities on this sort of scale, I mean? Or have I just gotten lucky?

The scale of this particular calamity remains to be seen, but... something usually happens, once in a while?

[Atsushi, no.]

There was the outbreak of a sickness that forced all of Olympia to evacuate, and political unrest.... riots that had the city on fire, and mass kidnappings...

[ATSUSHI, NO! In his defense, he actually looks a little uncomfortable about mentioning the kidnappings, but that's only because he was a victim, and it was Not Fun.]

Well, everywhere you go will have things like that happening, I think!

[That sheepish smile returns. Between Nysa lyfe and his life before that, he's a little jaded.]

I'm just going to put it out there that, from the sounds of resurrecting an ancient dragon to do their bidding with the potential of it being totally mad and uncontrollable, this is probably going to be pretty far up there on the scale.

[Just sayin'.]

I'd heard about some of the rest of that though, but. Not all of it. It makes me wonder if we shouldn't be keeping some sort of record of it all ourselves. You know. In case some future disaster were to need to reference what choices we were making here themselves.

What was the sickness? Was it that bad?

[Atsushi is borderline pouting. Why can't you try to stay positive like him?!]

J-Just because a dragon is a huge spectacle, that doesn't mean that it's worse than any of the other things that happened. Anyway, we don't know for sure that the resurrection will be successful!

[Do you know how hard it is for him to cling to positivity? He's trying!]

A record wouldn't be a bad idea... I don't know if anyone bothered keeping one. We were kind of busy at the time...

More than a sickness, it was a biological attack? There was an explosion that released purple fog, and a lot of people got infected. We hadn't been allowed into Wyver until that point, but to disinfect the city, the Empress arranged for everyone to be evacuated and live in Wyver for a while.

[Sorry Atsushi, he's Ianto Jones, depression is basically his middle name.]

A biological attack? [Wow that doesn't sound alarming at all.] Did someone plan for this to happen to the city then?

[Was it this asshole Rasyc, has he been planning this sort of thing all along, wow Ianto's really got a bee in his bonnet as far as this guy has concerned, first he stole the Heart to resurrect a long-dead dragon and inflict chaos on the citizens and now potentially this?]

[Well, "deliberately blind optimism to have any hope left in life at all" is Atsushi's ponderous middle name, so!]

Yes and no? It was a disease manufactured by the Institute, but it was someone else who released it - someone unrelated to either city.

[Atsushi you have a much better middle name than Ianto does, wow.]

The Institute. You mean... Evras' research laboratories? What were they doing manufacturing diseases there?

No, never mind that. Was it known who released it into the city? Was it Rasyc?

[If it was so help him...]

Chemical warfare... I presume?

[Too bad, you're getting an answer anyway. No take-backsies. Meanwhile, Atsushi isn't nearly as shocked about that piece of information as he probably should be. It's been long enough that he's mostly numb to it.]

It was Cree who arranged it... or facilitated it? He wasn't directly involved in the release, but was definitely responsible for the terrorists getting their hands on the disease.

I kind of suspected it was something forbidden— especially since they are trying to bring it back from being dead.

Did you find out anything about how we could stop it?

I've been doing my best to look, but so far I've come up empty. Most of my research was spent chasing down details on the ritual itself, mind, which were few and far in between.

The only concrete answers I do have is that it's been done once before and that they did end up killing that person as well. Which stands to reason we should be able to do the same here. Easier said than done, considering our target, but. Better than nothing I suppose?

Yeah— it's something at least. Though that makes me wonder how it was actually accomplished before because right now there isn't too much to go on for how to do that.

Well, the High Dragons were originally brought down with the help of "Thesa's Light", though that's hardly an answer in and of itself. If they could have written these histories with a little more fact in them, it would have been a greater help. Right now it's anyone's guess as to what actually happened and what the author chose to artistically embellish.

[He rubs his eyes. He's been doing a lot of reading these ancient texts, lately.]

Yeah, no kidding if they wrote a bit more then at least we would have a better idea of how to deal with this.

If they wrote more, if they wrote clearer. Who's to say that what we're experiencing now won't be relevant down the timeline for someone else for that matter. Though at least we won't be writing in metaphor.

Anyway, I'm doing what I can from here but I'm only one person. What we need is to share information amongst ourselves about our findings. Now more than ever it's important that no one keep what they've uncovered a secret. It's why I've made this post and it's why I hope that others do the same, if they should find any more answers themselves, yeah? Just because we're pretty much stumbling around in the dark doesn't mean that we're not completely without resources.

Yeah I agree— I don't have anything to share myself especially since I've never dealt with something like this before either but I'll try to find out what I can too so that we are better prepared for this.

I do feel bad for it, though. Don't you? It's not its fault it was brought back from the dead to do awful things. Or -- it won't be. Wouldn't be, if it happens.

I've never fought a dragon before, but I am decent with a musket.

Well, how can you not, in a way? He never asked for this. Ysverai was, as far as I have read, fairly reasonable. For a dragon, mind, but. Still. It's not fair that they're doing this to him, but it may be too late to stop what's already been done and at the end of the day, the fact that it isn't fair to the dragon is no reason for innocent people to suffer.

If you've got your musket with you, I have no doubt that they could use your help against whatever there is to come.

Oh dear, that's even more awful, if he were a reasonable sort of creature. Have you visited the sanctuary? The little ones are rather lovely. And to think that someone would use such a noble beast to their own foul ends -- I hate to think of it.

I'm not certain I should want to fight him, come to that. Is it not possible to fight the people bringing him back? Maybe if they weren't controlling him, he could be reasoned with.

And I'm afraid, sir, I do not have my musket with me. Only a few rounds, and they wouldn't do much good.

Not yet, I'm afraid. I only just arrived in Wyver at the same time that all of this business started. [Given that he was part of the party escorting the Heart, he isn't certain he wants to advertise that in case some people get upset about it, though, and start coming after them for their failure to keep it out of the wrong hands.] I had a, ehm. Pet, of sorts, back where I came from that reminds me of the wyvern, though. I'd hate to see anything like this happen to her.

Listen, don't worry about it. You should be able to defend the citizens against the members of Raysc's people though, yeah. If you want to lend a hand, I've no doubt that that's where they will need it most. With the defense of the evacuation.

This is all terribly upsetting. I've recently arrived myself. We're all just trying to live our lives the best we can here. I found a job that I enjoy, I'm trying to meet people and make friends. I left one revolt only to be thrown into another, and I can't help but hurt for those coming from similar situations.

Of course I'll help with the evacuations. I gave my life for one cause back in France, I'd do anything to help the people here. For the greater good.

[Hang on did he just say he gave up his life...? Ianto must have misheard or perhaps this man misspoke, because obviously he's here and most certainly not dead now. (Ianto has yet to learn of the Natha's powers of resurrection.)]

I'm glad to hear it, then. They're going to need all the help that they can get, if this is to go in the way that I'm afraid that it might.

Listen. If I find out more then I will certainly do what I can to let people know. But I wouldn't count on it. There isn't much written about this ritual to be able to stop it from happening -- and believe me, I've looked. Unless we're to happen to stumble on something in the next few days, I think we need to focus our efforts on dealing with what comes next.

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